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	<title>Comments on: Blizzard Downloader Forces Seeding?</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.paralipsis.org/2005/08/blizzard-downloader-forces-seeding/comment-page-1/#comment-41132</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you cancel mid-DL and restart it. It will accelerate through the already downloaded material until it catches up with your last point. It usually takes about 5-60 seconds.
Crappy downloader regardless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you cancel mid-DL and restart it. It will accelerate through the already downloaded material until it catches up with your last point. It usually takes about 5-60 seconds.<br />
Crappy downloader regardless.</p>
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		<title>By: DUDE</title>
		<link>http://www.paralipsis.org/2005/08/blizzard-downloader-forces-seeding/comment-page-1/#comment-40357</link>
		<dc:creator>DUDE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am downloading the WRATH OF THE LICH KING BETA. I AM STUCK AT 99% DOWNLOAD AS WELL. DOWNLOAD RATE COMPLETELY ZEROED, UPLOAD STILL GOING, I'VE UPLOADED 2.46 GB, ISN'T THAT ENOUGH? UGH... CANCELING WOULD SUCK REAL BAD IF I HAD TO START ALL OVER!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am downloading the WRATH OF THE LICH KING BETA. I AM STUCK AT 99% DOWNLOAD AS WELL. DOWNLOAD RATE COMPLETELY ZEROED, UPLOAD STILL GOING, I&#8217;VE UPLOADED 2.46 GB, ISN&#8217;T THAT ENOUGH? UGH&#8230; CANCELING WOULD SUCK REAL BAD IF I HAD TO START ALL OVER!</p>
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		<title>By: Jpizzle</title>
		<link>http://www.paralipsis.org/2005/08/blizzard-downloader-forces-seeding/comment-page-1/#comment-39800</link>
		<dc:creator>Jpizzle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can get around this by canceling the download, then restarting it and disabling peer to peer transfer. It will verify what you have already downloaded and then download the rest from the HTTP server. It seems there is a limit to how much you can download from the HTTP server in one sitting (around 700 MB for me). But once you restart it will start from scratch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get around this by canceling the download, then restarting it and disabling peer to peer transfer. It will verify what you have already downloaded and then download the rest from the HTTP server. It seems there is a limit to how much you can download from the HTTP server in one sitting (around 700 MB for me). But once you restart it will start from scratch.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.paralipsis.org/2005/08/blizzard-downloader-forces-seeding/comment-page-1/#comment-39795</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What also sucks is they use the downloader for non-patches as well, such as the new Starcraft 2 videos. There are a TON of seeders for these, and in fact for long periods of time I will only be connected to seeders or other 99%. This means it becomes nearly impossible to finish the download as there is no one to seed to! Just sits at 99% with 0 download and 0 upload speed. I can kinda understand the forced seeding, but when all peers are saturated, just let it finish!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What also sucks is they use the downloader for non-patches as well, such as the new Starcraft 2 videos. There are a TON of seeders for these, and in fact for long periods of time I will only be connected to seeders or other 99%. This means it becomes nearly impossible to finish the download as there is no one to seed to! Just sits at 99% with 0 download and 0 upload speed. I can kinda understand the forced seeding, but when all peers are saturated, just let it finish!</p>
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		<title>By: Sonnentier</title>
		<link>http://www.paralipsis.org/2005/08/blizzard-downloader-forces-seeding/comment-page-1/#comment-14409</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonnentier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 22:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you use a router, it _could_ be an unlikely scenario preventing the last packet to be properly sent to your computer: If your IP and the data of the packet form a specific pattern, your router modifies it, thus the packet is now modified and doesn't help the file finish. This last packet will be sent again and again, but the router would mangle it again and again. If you get a new IP, the packet could pass.

More Information:
http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/99</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you use a router, it _could_ be an unlikely scenario preventing the last packet to be properly sent to your computer: If your IP and the data of the packet form a specific pattern, your router modifies it, thus the packet is now modified and doesn&#8217;t help the file finish. This last packet will be sent again and again, but the router would mangle it again and again. If you get a new IP, the packet could pass.</p>
<p>More Information:<br />
<a href="http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/99" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.azureuswiki.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/99</a></p>
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		<title>By: magnus</title>
		<link>http://www.paralipsis.org/2005/08/blizzard-downloader-forces-seeding/comment-page-1/#comment-14006</link>
		<dc:creator>magnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 20:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it also happens to me, but havent seen this before..
could it be fake seeders which not are blizzard's?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it also happens to me, but havent seen this before..<br />
could it be fake seeders which not are blizzard&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>By: Tre</title>
		<link>http://www.paralipsis.org/2005/08/blizzard-downloader-forces-seeding/comment-page-1/#comment-12758</link>
		<dc:creator>Tre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 09:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There sure are some strange goings on with this damn software. 

I use BitTorrent frequently, so I know roughly what to expect when using uTorrent and such. This morning, I downloaded a 1.79Mb patch. Why then, did the Blizzard client download 23Mb of data? 

It is not impossible, but very unlikely, that it was multiple hash failures in corrupt chunks. I think, along with the 99% forced seed issue, there are some underhand things going on from Blizzard. 

It really does look like they are manipulating the users bandwidth. =(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There sure are some strange goings on with this damn software. </p>
<p>I use BitTorrent frequently, so I know roughly what to expect when using uTorrent and such. This morning, I downloaded a 1.79Mb patch. Why then, did the Blizzard client download 23Mb of data? </p>
<p>It is not impossible, but very unlikely, that it was multiple hash failures in corrupt chunks. I think, along with the 99% forced seed issue, there are some underhand things going on from Blizzard. </p>
<p>It really does look like they are manipulating the users bandwidth. =(</p>
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		<title>By: shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.paralipsis.org/2005/08/blizzard-downloader-forces-seeding/comment-page-1/#comment-12430</link>
		<dc:creator>shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 12:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a 3rd download in a row now, stays at 99% and will now download from the HTTP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a 3rd download in a row now, stays at 99% and will now download from the HTTP.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.paralipsis.org/2005/08/blizzard-downloader-forces-seeding/comment-page-1/#comment-2997</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 00:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what makes me mad is that thanks to BT technoligy Blizzard gets to charge us $$ for the subscription yet at the same damn time there passing of "PATCH" Bandwidth to the end consumer. NOT FAIR BLIZZ.  IF your gunna charge us monthly fee's then set up servers to handle the load not put the load on other users!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what makes me mad is that thanks to BT technoligy Blizzard gets to charge us $$ for the subscription yet at the same damn time there passing of &#8220;PATCH&#8221; Bandwidth to the end consumer. NOT FAIR BLIZZ.  IF your gunna charge us monthly fee&#8217;s then set up servers to handle the load not put the load on other users!.</p>
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		<title>By: Jar</title>
		<link>http://www.paralipsis.org/2005/08/blizzard-downloader-forces-seeding/comment-page-1/#comment-1603</link>
		<dc:creator>Jar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 13:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your right on this one. Also what is kinda frustrating is at 99% if you try disabling p2p it wont get the last bytes from the http server.

Im missing the last 1% of patch 2 of tbc, kinda frustrating since the 2.8gb file already took a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your right on this one. Also what is kinda frustrating is at 99% if you try disabling p2p it wont get the last bytes from the http server.</p>
<p>Im missing the last 1% of patch 2 of tbc, kinda frustrating since the 2.8gb file already took a day.</p>
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